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  The Gentile Times Reconsidered

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.

  carl o. jonsson).

  along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  Guys be easy on Spade, there is so much info to support 607BCE here

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/198716/1/Joeys-trip-to-the-library

  and here

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/194806/1/Library-Visit-2-607-BCE-vs-587-BCE-With-Pictures
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  Australia: Tomorrow Night ACA on 9, Interview with x Closed Brethren

  by finallysomepride in

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  2. friends

  check it out on 'a current affair' on channel 9 friday 25th.

  thanks broken promises for the info.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  Channel 9

  " Breaking free of the brethren - How Karen escaped the controversial church that brainwashed her whole family, and had her shunned. "

  Which religion?? scientology, jw, armish, mormon??
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  Scriptural proof of a paradise earth? Psalms 72:7; Isaiah 33:24

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a very close person i know is trying to show biblical proof that there are two classes, one in heaven and the other on a paradise earth, i think i have the celestial class 144000 covered.

  i was given these two scriptures as proof that there will be everlasting life on earth.. psalms 72:7 - in his days may the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace till the moon is no more.. isaiah 33:24 - and no resident will say, "i am sick"; the people who dwell there will be forgiven their iniquity.. would anyone have any brackground on these two scriptures and what they really apply to?.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  Thanks guys, I want to be clear and direct to the person I am speaking to, this person believes she has the truth, funny that she had to use the OT to prove the point of paradise earth.

  So let me get this straight

  1. Everlasting life promised to Israel nation (OT) BUT everyone at that (and this) stage went to heaven

  2. God wants Nation of Israel to join with gentiles

  3.God starts to dislike how jews carries on this

  4. Prophecies of the end of the heavens and the earth

  5. Jesus sent to earth as ramsom sacrifice for both jews and gentiles

  6. Prophecy of new heavens and new earth (rev) is the continuation of (1) and invatation to gentiles after destruction of Heavens and earth?
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  Needs help telling my mom that I dont want to be apart of her religion

  by LovelyEunie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i really don't know how to just tell my mom that i dont want to do be a jw, i mean i really shouldn't have to tell her if she'd actually pay attention to my attitude everytime she goes on a religious rant, but she chooses to stay blind and keeps making me go to that place and sit through meetings that i don't agree with on most occasions...i think that she thinks that if she keeps making me go then i'll miraculously have a change of heart and want to stay in (which will never happen).

  i don't want to be disrepectful about it but since she obviously doesn't care about my feelings towards it, then why should i care if i hurt her feelings in the process, you know?

  i just really don't know what to do, everytime i go to that place i feel fake because everthing they instruct us not to do, i've pretty much done it or will do it with no remorse, and i don't care either way.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  unzombiefying a JW is not that easy, they want to do the preaching and when you do the preaching to them their cult like brain shuts down and restarts once you are finish, I was amazed of the things I said to my parents that went into the left ear and came out the right, the trick is to let them stumble upon their own wording and reading of the bible, what black sheep wrote and skeeter1 wrote I would do....

  You could show her that Awake about freedom of religion august 2009 I think.
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  Scriptural proof of a paradise earth? Psalms 72:7; Isaiah 33:24

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a very close person i know is trying to show biblical proof that there are two classes, one in heaven and the other on a paradise earth, i think i have the celestial class 144000 covered.

  i was given these two scriptures as proof that there will be everlasting life on earth.. psalms 72:7 - in his days may the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace till the moon is no more.. isaiah 33:24 - and no resident will say, "i am sick"; the people who dwell there will be forgiven their iniquity.. would anyone have any brackground on these two scriptures and what they really apply to?.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  Thanks guys for your input, our conversation is going to be strictly from the bible only, I would like to point these understandings.

  So what did happen to the promise to the Nation of Israel? Just in case I get asked (I have a lot of reading to do but this is for sat so any input would be great)

  Mad Sweeney - Good point

  brotherdan - 1Cor 13:12 got it!

  jonathan dough - thanks ill read into it.

  abbagail - thanks
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  Scriptural proof of a paradise earth? Psalms 72:7; Isaiah 33:24

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a very close person i know is trying to show biblical proof that there are two classes, one in heaven and the other on a paradise earth, i think i have the celestial class 144000 covered.

  i was given these two scriptures as proof that there will be everlasting life on earth.. psalms 72:7 - in his days may the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace till the moon is no more.. isaiah 33:24 - and no resident will say, "i am sick"; the people who dwell there will be forgiven their iniquity.. would anyone have any brackground on these two scriptures and what they really apply to?.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  Thanks guys for your input, our conversation is going to be strictly from the bible only, I would like to point these understandings.

  So what did happen to the promise to the Nation of Israel? Just in case I get asked (I have a lot of reading to do but this is for sat so any input would be great)

  Mad Sweeney - Good point

  brotherdan - 1Cor 13:12 got it!

  jonathan dough - thanks ill read into it.

  abbagail - thanks
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  Scriptural proof of a paradise earth? Psalms 72:7; Isaiah 33:24

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a very close person i know is trying to show biblical proof that there are two classes, one in heaven and the other on a paradise earth, i think i have the celestial class 144000 covered.

  i was given these two scriptures as proof that there will be everlasting life on earth.. psalms 72:7 - in his days may the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace till the moon is no more.. isaiah 33:24 - and no resident will say, "i am sick"; the people who dwell there will be forgiven their iniquity.. would anyone have any brackground on these two scriptures and what they really apply to?.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  A very close person I know is trying to show biblical proof that there are two classes, one in heaven and the other on a paradise earth, I think I have the celestial class 144000 covered. I was given these two scriptures as proof that there will be everlasting life on earth.

  Psalms 72:7 - In his days may the righteous flourish, and abundance of peace till the moon is no more.

  Isaiah 33:24 - And no resident will say, "I am sick"; the people who dwell there will be forgiven their iniquity.

  Would anyone have any brackground on these two scriptures and what they really apply to?
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  To My Fellow Skeptics

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay...i'm a hardcore skeptic and i admit it.

  i have no use for the supernatural at all.. having said that though, once in a great, great while i'm truly, honestly stumped.

  one instance was a book i read in the early 1970's entitled, arigo: surgeon of the rusty knife.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  I had heard of this, its a con, google it, it was on 60 minutes a while back, not sure if this was brazil or a part of asia but they used cow and chicken flesh to give the illusion that they are operating with their bare hands.
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  Ever read 'the exorcist' or any book of that type?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. social
  2. current

  i recently read 'hostage to the devil'.

  the 1st book that gave me nightmares in decades.

  very spooky.

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  American psycho, awesome book, not exactly horror but it will make feel sick, up there with the OT.
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  What Does The GB Really Believe?

  by Murray Smith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a speculative question i suppose .

  but i am quite intrigued by this.. .

  a witness for 20-odd years .

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  Joey Jo-Jo

  Ray's book CoC mentions that most of the gb had a busy lifestyle and did not have a bible trained conscience, GB meetings did not involve in depth bible reading studies, rather it was decisions accomplished by votes that follow a pattern of who of most respected votes everyone votes in favour.

  Spiritual babes in high positions who dictate the lives of others, and others who feel in love with the lie not wanting to put their faith to the test, rather to demonise everyone who follows the bible's counciling in putting it to the test.